DERM on RheumNow PODCAST (February 2026) Save

Welcome to the Derm on Room Now podcast for February 2026. Hi. I'm doctor Jack Cush, executive editor of roomnow.com. The Derm on Room Now podcast is curated for dermatologists and skin deep HCPs, where we discuss the intersection of all matters that are relevant to both dermatology and rheumatology. These are items that I pick up and report on on my website and daily newsletter and weekly podcast, roomnow.com.

You can register now. We talk about psoriasis, psoriatic arthritis, cutaneous lupus vasculitis, hidradenitis, connective tissue disease, and the therapies we both use, the biologics, the JAK inhibitors, etcetera. We like to discuss regulatory decisions and new advances in our fields. Let's begin with a new announcement by the FDA that came about at the February. This was the FDA sending a complete response letter to AstraZeneca, the manufacturer of anifrolumab, the alpha interferon inhibitor that's approved for use in lupus.

They actually just released the TULIP SC trial. This was a trial proving the efficacy of safnello, anifrolumab, in cutaneous lupus using a Class A endpoint. At the same time that this was published in January, the EMA in Europe approved the use of safnello for use in cutaneous lupus. And while all these good things are going on, now the FDA comes out with a complete response letter putting a halt to the manufacturer's biologic license application, a BLA, to extend the indications of anifrolumab now to cutaneous lupus. And the FDA by issuing a complete response letter, we don't know for what reason, is saying, Woah, woah, woah, we've got to discuss some of the data or some of the findings or something they're not quite happy with.

So this is not necessarily a bad thing. It usually is clarification on information and safety data, and it just sort of puts off the FDA's decision to approve this therapy, which I would expect would happen sometime in the next three to six months. Next, we have a review on calcinosis cutis, something that really bothers us when we have to manage it. We don't know if we should send it to you, or maybe you don't know if you should send it to us. No one seems to have a really good handle on it.

I thought this review was a good one. And what we do know from this review and others is that the most effective measures in managing calcinal sescutis, which is common in systemic sclerosis, common in dermatomyositis, including juvenile dermatomyositis, including people who are NXP-two positive, the most effective measures are surgical. And that means excision, curettage, even laser ablation. What's not so good, and often ineffective or incomplete, and may only work with limited disease and early manifestations of calcinosis, are medical measures such as calcium channel blockers, tetracyclines, probenecid, biologics, immunomodulators, colchicine, sodium thiosulfate, and yeah, even JAK inhibitors. I have not tried that.

I have tried almost all of those, but not JAK inhibitors. Again, not really with good effect, but a good relationship with a plastic surgeon, and maybe you can do this in your office if it's limited disease. A review of what's going on in systemic sclerosis also appeared this week. As you know, the most frustrating disease that I treat, and hopefully that maybe you have to treat as much is systemic sclerosis. And that includes both limited and linear and localized disease where there's better treatments.

But when it gets to be limited crest disease or diffuse disease, oh my goodness, it's just a bit maddening. We're starting to get some drugs approved, mainly with a lung indication, and that's good. Know, like Nintedinib, the anti fibrotic, and Tocilizumab, the anti IL-six drug. But in this review of what's out there in Medline and also at clinicaltrials.gov, they found 32 trials, 2,000 patients using 23 new targeted therapies, showing positive data for guselkumab, the IL-twenty three data, looking at primarily a modified Rodnan Skin score. This was better than what was seen with tofacitinib, baricitinib, inebilizumab, a B cell depleter that's approved for use in IgG4 related disease.

When looking at lung outcomes, much more frustrating, there was positive data or efficacy when looking at B cell targeted therapies with belimumab or rituximab. These trials that are in development or one offs are probably early phase II or phase IIb trials. Are going to need more studies before we ever get around to them being approved for use in systemic sclerosis. An outcomes trial looked at two thousand four hundred plus claims data patients and twelve hundred patients with EHR data with dermatomyositis, looking at what happens with these people, looked at testing, treatment, and outcomes. As far as testing, half of them had myositis panels done.

The other, a third of them had myositis specific autoantibodies like MDA5, NXP2, TIF-one gamma, etc. By the way, why not more people being tested for antisynthetase and these myositis autoantibodies? I think they are helpful in management and prognostication. Steroids were common, but only in seventy percent. Seventy four percent were receiving either hydroxychloroquine, methotrexate, mycophenolate.

What? Hydroxychloroquine? For ositis? I hope it's for the skin disease because it doesn't do squat for the muscles. Mycophenolate, I'm not impressed with what it does for muscles.

Methotrexate, yes. Azathioprine, yes. And then when they looked at what happens to these people, outcomes, the bad outcomes, the things we worry about, they expressed these as per 1,000 patient years. Think about it this way: one thousand patients followed one year. How many hospitalizations would you see?

Ninety two. Two. Ninety two per one thousand patient years. What about malignancy? It's only fifteen per one thousand patient years.

ILD six, myocarditis two. So a lot of things we worry about are still pretty rare events in this study. Looking at psoriasis and what's going on, there's a lot of new reports. The derm bio registry from Denmark looked at the experience of biologic biologic treatment in psoriasis patients. And so this is a registry.

They had in this registry three thousand seven hundred and ninety patients who were biologic naive, and they looked looked at at the the best five year survival, what do you think was the best biologic? That's right, the one you didn't expect: ustekinumab. Ustekinumab outperformed adalimumab and secukinumab. What? Really?

I think the reason was that a lot of them were escalated from forty five to ninety mg in dosing. When they looked at 3,400 who were biologic experienced psoriatic, the best performing drugs were what you and I are using: bimekizumab, guselkumab, and rizenkizumab. Overall, three of these drugs are IL-twenty three inhibitors: guselkumab, rizenkizumab, and ustekinumab. Two are IL-seventeen inhibitors. I think we're on the right track.

Real world retention. That's another I like this as a measure of success or efficacy and safety. A single center, real world study of twelve oh two psoriatic arthritis patients, looking at specifically secukinumab, you know what influenced retention the most, and significantly so, was smoking. Being a current smoker significantly dropped your retention rates by at least five percent. But you know what didn't?

Obesity. There are other studies showing obesity is a factor in lowering retention rates, as is being on prior biologic therapy, as is having peripheral arthritis as opposed to axial arthritis. So overall, significant results were, being a former smoker, thirty two percent higher, and current smoker, twenty seven percent higher risk of falling off the drug. And they go off the drug for both efficacy and toxicity reasons, and reasons maybe that are not otherwise explained. I think the big news in this month was the Together PSO trial.

This is a press release from Lilly showing that the combination of ixekizumab and tirzepatide, tirzepatide, which is Mounjaro or think it's Zepbound, the GLP-one receptor antagonist or agonist, excuse me, where they showed the combination of the and the GLP-one was better than the IL-seventeen alone in treating moderate to severe psoriasis. So these are patients who had, they had on average, like, the majority of them had over 25% body surface area involvement. There's two seventy four patients. Their primary readout right here is thirty six weeks, and the primary endpoint is a PASI 100 plus greater than 10% weight loss. And at thirty six weeks, the results favored the combination twenty seven percent over single drug ixekizumab alone six percent.

Highly If you look at PASI-one 100 responses alone, not the weight loss, the combination outperformed monotherapy forty one percent versus twenty nine percent. I find that surprising. Again, these people had pretty severe skin involvement by the inclusion criteria. They're going to continue the study, go out to week 52. You'll probably see it at a dermatology meeting coming up before I'll see it at an arthritis meeting.

By the way, this report follows about two weeks after Lilly released the Together PSA trial, another thirty six week phase 3B study. This was two seventy one patients where the combination versus ixekizumab alone, and there the primary endpoint was a high level arthritis endpoint, ACR 50, plus greater than 10% weight loss, and the combination therapy outperformed monotherapy, thirty two percent to less than one percent at thirty six weeks. The same could be said for ACR 50 alone. This is, I think, a very important result and I think is going to change the way we manage arthritis and the way you manage psoriasis going forward. There are a lot of trials of these GLP-one drugs coming down the pipe in the future, and I think they're going to be big.

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