Jack, there's another group of patients. The non-sitters. These are the patients standing in the exam room when you walk in and many still don't sit down even when you ask them. Some of them are also close talkers. You know, like on Seinfeld. And more distressing some of those are loud talkers. While only inches from your face. I've already lost enough hearing from too many rock concerts. Oy! John Tesser